Again, there is a HUGE difference between paying for catastrophic care and routine care. I would NOT be opposed to, say, the government covering medical expenses in excess of $25,000 for people younger than 70 years of age. However, that isn’t what the Democrats are looking for. Democrats want 100% coverage for everyone at anytime.

When I was a child my parents paid out of their own pocket for our checkups and other routine care. Hospitalization was covered, routine care was not.

Also:

Hillary and Bill Clinton HAVE profited from the war via their stock holdings.

Democrats laid the groundwork for the Iraq War.

Al Gore 1992: Saddam Hussein is a threat with WMDs, nuclear weapons, and has links to terrorism.

John Kerry 1997: Saddam Hussein is a threat with WMDs, nuclear weapons, and has links to terrorism.

Bill Clinton 1998: Saddam Hussein is a threat with WMDs, nuclear weapons, and has links to terrorism.

Get the idea?

Saddam Hussein WAS a threat. The fact that WMDs haven’t been found does not mean he never possessed them, because, you and I both know he did.

Would you like me to provide UN Resolution 1441 where the UN states how uncooperative Saddam had been and their belief that he still has WMDs?

I think this may be it (not sure):

http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/documents/1441.pdf

Besides, there is a HUGE difference between the government covering catastrophic expenses and paying for routine care–which is what the Democrats want. Want a wart removed? Never fear, the Democrats will use taxpayer money to pay for it.

Oh, and two words for you, chump: Traficant and Jefferson. Ever heard of them? Two Democrats, one in prison, one on his way to prison, for corruption.

Bill Clinton SHOULD have went to prison for perjury. Then we have Sen. majority leader Harry Reid and his ties to Jack Abramoff and shady land deals.

There is no shortage of corrupt, shady Democrats.

You left-wingers must be immune to the stench of your own bullshit.

Sure, there is a steep deductible. However, it IS affordable and with a lifetime benefit of $5 million, it will prevent a major health problem from resulting in financial catastrophe.

Healthcare is not, and should not be, a “right”. Left-wingers have a twisted view of the world, that’s for sure. They think they should have rights to free food, rent, childcare, healthcare, and more. Yet a law abiding citizen shouldn’t have the right to carry a weapon to defend himself against a Democrat-voting criminal.

Your statistics about life expectancy and infant mortality are meaningless unless you consider the different demographics when comparing America with other nations.

Besides, you want to know how the life expectancy has been increasing? It’s been increasing by keeping people who would in the past have died alive by artificial methods. Sure, that 85-year-old vegetable is being kept alive with a feeding tube. He’ll make it to 86 so the life expectancy stats can increase and make you happy, OK?

I also question your insurance numbers. I’ve been in business for a long time and I’ve never seen health insurance coverage for $80/month for any age person. I wonder which part of:

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

you don’t get. Healthcare should be a birthright of every American. You offer Hobson’s Choices when there are many options for fixing our system.

It’s difficult to argue with the stats. We have the most expensive healthcare system in the world but live shorter lives than any other western nation, have the highest rate of infant deaths of any western nation.

The reason he induces strong feelings in (certain) people is because he knows how tap into the psyche of certain types of people. Those types of people are generally liberal, they refuse to put forth the effort to do their own research, they are insanely jealous of the rich (even though Moore is very wealthy), are inherently distrustful of Republicans (for some bewildering reason), and they look to the government as their savior–if the government is run by Democrats, that is.

Moore’s formula is to concoct conspiracy theories with multiple degrees of separation between the participants, then present that as fact of wrongdoing along with sob stories and imagery designed to evoke certain emotions.

Extracting money from liberals is BIG money. Moore makes tens-of-millions of dollars from his movies, then he charges poor college kids $40,000 to come tell them about the horrors of George Bush and his rich buddies.

Honestly, Moore is already rich, so if he legitimately cares about something, why doesn’t he do it for free??? The answer is because he doesn’t care any more than it makes him money.

Moore is a pioneer in the business of Big Liberalism. He does it well and laughs all the way to the bank. People who don’t or can’t think critically eat it up, never questioning the supposed “facts” in his movies nor his true motivation ($$$$).

ValUMyMoney:

Did you read the review by Kurt Loder? Did you read about the 2-year waiting lists in Canada? Have you heard about the doctor shortages in England? Did you know that dentists in England are going into private practice so they can offer better care and make more money?

Did you know that the high cost of government-run care in France and Germany is believed to be largely responsible for the high rates of unemployment in those countries?

Saying that we “get less” is not entirely true if you factor in the high taxes, long waits, and inferior medical care that often occurs in government-run programs.

Also, what, exactly, is driving the high cost of American healthcare? You can’t just take everything that is spent and divide it equally among the populace. The aging population is going to take its toll–and under socialized medicine it will be the youth who pay through the nose to subsidize the healthcare of the elderly. Personally, I think open heart surgery for a 78-year-old man is a waste of money as he is at the very end of his life expectancy as it is and could drop dead at any time.

In the state in which I live, the Democrats a few years ago proposed universal health insurance, mandatory for all citizens. An 18-year-old man would have had to pay $350 per month–mandatory–for health insurance. The free-market cost of getting health insurance from an insurance company for a man his age was about $80 per month. Um, that’s a big difference, isn’t it? But THAT is what Socialism is all about.

If you find the first appeal manipulative, ignore it. Why do we pay more and get less? A lot of very, very wonky international health bodies have crunched the numbers, and we are getting ripped off!!